Danish Prime Minister Helle Thorning-Schmidt shares a joke with U.S. President Barack Obama at the Nelson Mandela memorial as UK Prime Minister David Cameron looks on.Danish Prime Minister Helle Thorning-Schmidt shares a joke with U.S. President Barack Obama at the Nelson Mandela memorial as UK Prime Minister David Cameron looks on.

Altogether now, smile! <!-- --> </br>Obama poses for a selfie with the Danish PM, known as "Gucci Helle" in her country for her love of designer clothes, and Cameron. First Lady Michelle Obama looks elsewhere.Altogether now, smile! Obama poses for a selfie with the Danish PM, known as "Gucci Helle" in her country for her love of designer clothes, and Cameron. First Lady Michelle Obama looks elsewhere.

Has Cameron photo-bombed the event or is Thorning-Schmidt pulling Cameron into the frame? Has Cameron photo-bombed the event or is Thorning-Schmidt pulling Cameron into the frame?

"OK, has that worked?" <!-- --> </br>Opinion is divided online over whether the leaders' behavior was appropriate. Some on Twitter <a href='https://twitter.com/_beckwils' target='_blank'>described the selfie as "horrible"</a> while <a href='https://twitter.com/ChrisMillard94' target='_blank'>others said</a> "honestly don't see what all the fuss is about." However the AFP photographer who captured the event, <a href='http://blogs.afp.com/correspondent/?post/Selfie' target='_blank'>Roberto Schmidt, said</a> "it makes me a little sad we are so obsessed with day-to-day trivialities, instead of things of true importance.""OK, has that worked?" Opinion is divided online over whether the leaders' behavior was appropriate. Some on Twitter described the selfie as "horrible" while others said "honestly don't see what all the fuss is about." However the AFP photographer who captured the event, Roberto Schmidt, said "it makes me a little sad we are so obsessed with day-to-day trivialities, instead of things of true importance."

The memorial was not a funeral but the creator of the "Selfies at Funerals" Tumblr described the world leaders' selfie as such. "Obama has taken a funeral selfie," <a href='http://selfiesatfunerals.tumblr.com/post/69596028648/obama-has-taken-a-funeral-selfie-so-our-work-here-is' target='_blank'>Jason Feifer wrote</a>. "So our work here is done."The memorial was not a funeral but the creator of the "Selfies at Funerals" Tumblr described the world leaders' selfie as such. "Obama has taken a funeral selfie," Jason Feifer wrote. "So our work here is done."

Entente cordiale? Obama and Thorning-Schmidt continue their mission to improve transatlantic relations.Entente cordiale? Obama and Thorning-Schmidt continue their mission to improve transatlantic relations.

Later on for reasons unknown, and it may have been when the president left to give his speech, the Obamas swap places so the First Lady sits between the two leaders, who appear to get on so well.Later on for reasons unknown, and it may have been when the president left to give his speech, the Obamas swap places so the First Lady sits between the two leaders, who appear to get on so well.









  • Elaine Swann: Obama "selfie" with Denmark PM at Mandela memorial looked inappropriate

  • But photog said it was during celebratory part of service; first lady had been smiling, too

  • She says selfie appropriate for Obama, given circumstances, but not usually OK at funerals

  • Swann: In church, synagogue, at services, selfies not OK etiquette. Wait until afterward




Editor's note: Elaine Swann is the founder of the Elaine Swann Leadership Academy, where she provides etiquette seminars for businesses, universities and individuals across the United States.


(CNN) -- On its face, the now-viral photo of Denmark's Prime Minister Helle Thorning-Schmidt taking a "selfie" with President Barack Obama and British Prime Minister David Cameron—at a memorial service for anti-apartheid hero Nelson Mandela, no less—looks wildly inappropriate. And no question, President Obama has taken a lot of media heat for participating. (It didn't help that the expression on Michelle Obama's face appeared to be disapproving.)


In the realm of funeral etiquette, those two factors—the memorial service, the glowering wife-- taken together, scream "social faux pas." But there was more to the story behind the image. Roberto Schmidt, the photographer who captured the photo told the "Today" show that he shot the picture during a jovial, celebratory portion of the service. He said people were dancing, singing and laughing as they celebrated the life of Nelson Mandela. Michelle Obama, he said, had been laughing along with the trio seconds before he snapped the image.



Elaine Swann


Understood. But a few questions remain. Is it proper to take a selfie at a funeral? And was President Obama out of line for doing so -- because he is the president, you know.


Under the circumstances Schmidt described, I'd say the selfie was not necessarily in poor taste for the President. But was it poor form? As President of the United States, a man watched and scrutinized at every angle, he is no doubt very careful about how his behavior is perceived. He surely knew that picture would wind up pinging around the Internet and on the evening news and cleverly headlined front pages. Perhaps he wanted to send a message to the people, anyway, to say, "Hey, I'm just like you."


Now if he wanted to avoid the scrutiny altogether and send a more somber message to the public, he might have held off and joined in on the picture in a more private setting. The moment, however, did not seem to call for such discretion. What's my bottom line? President Obama's behavior was appropriate for that particular occasion, for that particular culture at that precise moment.


And what is the protocol for behavior at funerals for the rest of us: selfies and beyond?





Photographer of Obama selfie speaks out




Photographer of Obama selfie speaks out

Well, if you, too, happen to attend a funeral or memorial service at a stadium where the people are up dancing and singing and laughing in the aisles, then it's perfectly fine to take a selfie with your seat mates.


The key here is that there is a proper time and place for everything, and that's where decorum comes in. That I would need to explain this will seem surprising to some, but this is, after all, a time when websites such as Selfies at a Funeral exist. So bear with me: Firing off a selfie during a solemn moment such as the prayer or scripture reading is highly inappropriate and terribly disrespectful.


The same shot during the gathering or meal service afterward is all right. Taking photos within the confines of the church or synagogue or funeral home can be perceived as highly inappropriate. It is important to be aware of this and remain respectful of the family, the culture and the environment you are in.


Funerals and memorials take on a different meaning from culture to culture; some are very somber, others quite celebratory. It is our duty to be sensitive to the entire moment and in some cases it might be difficult to tell what that requires. Here's a handy rule of thumb: To avoid offending, err on the side of caution and just hold off on that selfie until the funeral has ended.


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The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of Elaine Swann.



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